#PoisonIvyLeague Poison Ivy #6 Review + Overall Thoughts On Cycle Of Life And Death (WARNING – SPOILERS)
…Well, here we are, the last issue of Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death, and what’s going to be one of, if not THE last time, I look at something from the New 52. How does it fare? Well…it’s okay, but it involves yet ANOTHER character coming in to deal with the situation, and it has a cliffhanger ending that I’m worried will never get followed up on. I mean, I get why Amy Chu felt it had to end this way, and I’ll get to that in a bit, but suffice to say, it’s a little aggravating, though it’s at least a better ending than I thought we were gonna get for a while. Anyway, before I go into what I liked and disliked about this issue and the series as a whole, I need to do a quick look at the plot for this issue, so yes, SPOILERS AHEAD.
So, long story short, it turns out Grimley was the one behind the murders and the theft of Pamela’s research, meaning Victor from issue 4 was actually working for him. While his body WAS found dead at the end of issue 2, it turns out he sort of left it behind like a cocoon. It’s also hinted that he may have been behind keeping the cops off Ivy, as well as outright stated that he put a halt to the police investigation of the lab, since her staying in the game was required for his survival. Doesn’t completely excuse the two incompetent cops, but whatever. Point is, Grimley needed Pam’s research because he found it could help battle his cancer. Unfortunately, not only has it transformed him into a monster called the Grim, but his cancer came back anyway. He needs the Sporelings’ cells to stay alive, and doesn’t care if it kills them. Luckily for Ivy, Darshan came and freed the kids from Ivy’s cage so they could help her, but that isn’t quite enough to seal the deal, so naturally, what else should happen but Swamp Thing showing up to save the day. He punches a hole through Grim, who falls on Darshan, but Darshan lives because main character shields, Grim gets back up, grabs Rose, they fight again, and then Thorn HACKS GRIM APART WITH A MACHETE and drops his pieces in the river where they dissolve for some reason. DAMN, GIRL. O_O Anyway, Darshan makes a couple of WWE gags toward Swamp Thing that made me giggle, he takes the girls back in, and Alec talks to Ivy about how she might not have thought bringing the Sporelings into the world all the way through, but that they’re her responsibility. She needs to look after them, but she can’t keep hiding them forever, and that while people like them might be unique, they aren’t alone. As such, Pam finally decides to call Harley to try to make amends, but as she goes back into the house, the Sporelings are gone. Turns out that Darshan, knowing they’d try it with or without his help, got them to the Gotham Bus Terminal without anyone spotting them and I guess provided them fare to get out of Gotham. Apparently, they realized that the cops would come looking for them after what happened in the club and have decided it’s best to take off, but it’s hinted that they also have plans to “change the world”.
So, let’s talk about what I liked about this issue specifically first. While the art team is very clearly there to fill in the work for Mann, as he was leaving to start early work on Trinity, they nonetheless pass in a decent job…Well, okay, let’s just put it this way: For a last-minute change, the art could’ve been a LOT worse. We’ve all seen how those can usually end up in the past. While you all know my issues with killing, especially in the case where Grim could be brought back as a recurring member of Ivy’s rogues gallery, I get that this is a mini-series without a guaranteed continuation later, and that it wouldn’t be the hardest thing in the world to bring him back if it does. And while I made a joke about how Darshan survived where he probably shouldn’t have been able to, I AM glad he lived, and comprehend that he understood that the girls were gonna leave Gotham with or without his help and thus did what he thought was right. Even if the ending hints that he wasn’t necessarily, it’s easy to see where he thought he was. I might’ve done the same, honestly. And I’m glad that Ivy finally decided to call Harley in the end. While I’m not always a fan of how the two are written together nowadays, I AM still a fan of their pairing, and it’s good to see Pam acknowledge that she has people in her life that she loves.
And now for what I didn’t like. First off, while it’s always awesome to see Poison Ivy and Swamp Thing kicking ass, Alec showing up kinda hijacked the plot just a little bit, especially with how easily he brought down Grim at first. That said, I was kinda hoping that, should Swamp Thing make a cameo, it would tie into the fact that Ivy was tasked with regrowing his body after what happened in Justice League United, and that maybe regrowing him led to a breakthrough that showed Ivy how she could create the Sporelings in the first place, but no such luck. Speaking of, THAT ENDING. Look, I get that Amy Chu is trying to leave us with an ending where it’s suggested that this isn’t the end, or maybe to encourage the higher-ups at DC to either let her or someone else do something more with this story, but since we don’t know for sure that there WILL be a continuation, it instead feels like…the end of Sonic SatAM, I guess is a good example. Speaking of, I think it’s hinted that the girls might be in the midst of a heel turn with that ominous final line, but again, I can’t be sure, because for all I know, we’re never gonna see them again. Also, I get what they’re thinking with leaving, but I don’t think THEY thought it all the way through. So, basically, they’re leaving because they’re worried the cops will come after them and that it’s safer for everyone if they just weren’t around. Okay… … …except now, the only suspect left is Poison Ivy, and there’s no one left to cover her trail for her. Hell, take it a step further from that, and assume they eventually link Darshan to her. Between the lab and everything else, they’ll think she was behind everything and that he was an accomplice, which could end with him going to frigging Blackgate. Alternatively, you could’ve turned yourselves in and spared those you care about by claiming full responsibility. Granted, still not a great solution, and might’ve ended with Ivy being chased by the police anyway, but still comes off as a bit more selfless and thought-out than running away.
So, overall, what are my thoughts on the Poison Ivy mini-series? Well, it’s kind of a mixed bag for me. When it does well, it does really well, but when it does poorly, it’s really aggravating to me. Granted, that could just be because of how I personally view Ivy, and how much I want her to have a good solo title, but it’s also possible that the book had problems. Members of the art team having to tag out because of work elsewhere, story elements having to be rushed and blended in together because of the nature of the book being a six-issue mini-series, kinda conflicting messages as to whether or not Pam thinks it’s okay to kill, and characters coming in to hog the spotlight. On the other hand, though, when Ivy is in the zone, it’s awesome. She’s a brilliant-minded woman, but one who is capable of making mistakes and not thinking things all the way through, which just goes to prove that she IS human. Again, Darshan was a delight, and if this DOES get an on-going later, I’d love to see him back. I’m also glad he’s not involved simply to be a love interest. The mystery, while not exactly having the best structure in terms of giving the reader a chance to piece it together themselves along the way, at least makes sense by the end, and provides Ivy with someone she could have a longtime feud with, should the writers choose to do so. So, like I said, it’s a mixed bag, but one that I think provides the potential for a far better ongoing solo title. That said, I WOULD have to insist that the book simply be called Poison Ivy. I get the need for Cycle of Life and Death here, but for the ongoing, just Poison Ivy is fine. Overall, I definitely don’t regret buying this book, and I would encourage all of you who haven’t yet and want DC to make a Poison Ivy ongoing solo-title to do so. Hell, you might even enjoy it more than me, since I maybe have a tendency to over-think certain stuff. 😛
Anyway, lemme know what you all thought of this book, and let’s hope that the sales and overall interest are good enough in the end that DC makes an ongoing Poison Ivy Rebirth title. Either way, though, for those that read this and have been members of the Poison Ivy League, remember that we made this happen. So, regardless of what’s done with this from here on out, this was nonetheless a victory where some thought it couldn’t be attained, so pat yourselves on the back for that. Ja né!
…Well, I SAID I’d like to go awhile without talking about the New 52, but as a longtime member of the Poison Ivy League, I feel obligated to share this link and then review the comic next week. So, here are the preview pages for Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death #6.
- Poison Ivy and her Sporelings battle for survival in the epic final chapter of “Cycle of Life and Death”! The monster Grim makes his final move, the murderer is revealed, and Pamela Isley’s life will be forever changed! Plus, someone, or someTHING, joins the fray!
Well, it’s once again time to look at the adventures of Doctor Pamela Isley and her adorable plant ba-…Uh, I guess they’re teenagers now. Yeah, this is Poison Ivy #5.
So, right off the bat, let’s get this out of the way: I wasn’t exactly blown away by this issue. It didn’t piss me off like, say, issue 3 did, but it wasn’t really anything outstanding. We see the babies have grown into teenagers since their genetics are making them age faster than humans, and naturally, as all mutant teens are wont to do, they decide to sneak out one night so they can see the world outside their home. Nothing really wrong with that plot for this issue, just that I’ve seen it done before, and nothing about this scenario really grabbed me as anything different…well, save for one point: Ivy. See, the stuff with the teenagers is all stuff I’ve seen before in other stories. However, through thought balloons and body language, it’s pretty clear to me that Ivy is now realizing that she didn’t think this plan all the way through. While we’ve seen her in a protective and sort-of maternal scenario before, this is her quite literally being a mother, something that is completely new to her. And, as any first-time parent does, she makes mistakes and acknowledges that maybe she didn’t think everything through. To be fair, though, she probably wasn’t planning to keep three teenagers in that one loft and might’ve had long-term plans to move them to someplace at least a little bigger while teaching them over a longer course of time how important it was not to draw attention to themselves. So yeah, everything’s accelerated faster than she had plans for, and she hasn’t had the time to get everything squared away right…and it was right after realizing this that I came to the conclusion that that’s not just a problem for Ivy, but for this story in general.
This story is a 6-issue miniseries that is tackling multiple plot threads all at once: The murder mystery, the kids’ development, Ivy’s issues with becoming a mother, as well as looking at her own sense of morality and stability, the incorporation of Darshan and the other two Gotham City Sirens as side-characters, and so on. Y’know, I’d heard people suggest that Swamp Thing or Batman were going to cameo in this book, and honestly, while it’d be awesome to see either one (I actually thought for sure that’s where we were heading with this issue, in that Batman would have a little chat with Ivy about what’s going on), I feel like it’d bog the story down even more. Even if this was only a 12-issue miniseries, it could STILL manage to balance out and take more time with each of these plots one by one. Instead, because this all has to be resolved in 6 issues, it feels incredibly rushed and crammed in. And you can’t even say “Well, maybe some of these plot threads should’ve been dropped”, since other than maybe not including Selina and Harley, or perhaps dropping Darshan, all of the other plots tie together in a way that, when you take one away, the rest feels a bit hollow. And in regards to the other characters, I’d HATE to drop any of them. The problem is not the story or how many plots are going on at once, but the lack of time given for each one. As such, when Ivy has killed three people so far in this book and then tells the kids “No casualties”, you’re left wondering when she circled back around to the conclusion that killing is bad.
That said, I wanna make it clear that I DO understand why it’s only 6 issues. To be completely blunt, name one person at DC who had any say in what goes on and what makes it to print who wanted to put out a Poison Ivy book before the demand for it started. Now, while I can’t say that for a fact, and of course someone could pipe up and say they wanted to do so NOW, my guess is that the answer to this question is zero. And I’m not even saying that as any kind of negative comment toward DC. I’m just saying, no one in charge had it in their minds to do it. People who work for them probably did, but when it came to anyone who could actually give the green light for that? Notta. Then the Poison Ivy League started making a bit more noise, and when people like MTV started giving us attention, that’s when they said “Okay, we’ll do a Poison Ivy book”. However, while they were willing to do so, we’ve seen cases in the past (particularly during the New 52) where characters outside of the norm that people would expect to see have their own books get their own books but then be cancelled rather quickly due to low sales. So, I don’t think it’s outside the realm of possibility, nor as anything unreasonable, for them to decide to do a miniseries, and after that, if demand is still high, and the mini sold well, THEN they’ll do a monthly. So, for those wondering why we haven’t seen solicits for a Poison Ivy book as part of DC Rebirth, the reason is likely because they’re waiting for all six issues (and probably the trade, since there are people who simply cannot or will not get the individual issues) to be released and sold and then look at how they did before announcing anything, so don’t be surprised if we don’t get a full monthly until sometime next year.
So, that’s the situation. I get why it’s a 6-issue mini, and why we couldn’t get a full series right away, and how there was really no way to do this story under these conditions that wouldn’t result in this or any other sort of problem with the book. And I’m not pointing fingers at anybody for any issues with the book, either. Everybody, from Amy Chu, to the Manns, to everybody else that has had a hand with the book, I am perfectly willing to give the benefit of the doubt to and suggest they’re all at least TRYING to make this work. And it IS still an enjoyable story, despite these flaws, and I’m looking forward to the climax, albeit with a bit of fear as to how they decide to wrap this up. I’m just saying that it’s unfortunate that the current situation is preventing it from being even better. But, as the old saying goes, beggars can’t be choosers, and there WAS a lot of begging for this book.
Anyway, those are my thoughts on this issue. Got a different opinion? Feel free to leave it in the comments below, and let’s hope the final issue next month proves to be a satisfying conclusion…especially since it’s the last individual comic I’ll be buying regularly, since I’m switching over to the trades to save money. Ja né!
Yeesh, and I thought I had it rough with my niece turning 12 today. o.O Anyway, here are the preview pages for Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death #5.
- Trouble is brewing as Poison Ivy’s sporelings discover their powers and spread their wings, causing mayhem across Gotham City! Plus, a murderer-mastermind is revealed in this penultimate chapter of Life and Death!
…So yeah, this is kinda late. lol My fault, I hadn’t been uptown for a bit, so I wasn’t able to grab my copy. Regardless, I have it now, so let’s go over my thoughts regarding Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death #2.
So, as anyone who read last issue knows, we’ve got a murder mystery. And, as is typically a good move in murder mysteries, a lot of this issue sets up the most likely candidate for who the murderer is…and then ends with them being the newest victim. So yeah, not gonna lie, I’m not 100% sure I know who the killer is, which is good, because I don’t wanna be a mere two issues and know how it’s gonna end. With that said, I REALLY hope the character of Darshan is innocent as he seems to be, because I find myself really sympathizing with his situation. I’m also interested to see where they go with what Ivy’s been working on, although I hope for her sake that it doesn’t end up going where I think it is. And, of course, as always, Ivy is a delight to read. There’s just something about how unapologetically confident she is in herself and what she believes in…Well, minus one point.
As it pertains to the cons of this issue, I REALLY didn’t need to see her killing the dog abuser. He needed some kind of comeuppance, no doubt, but Ivy killing him seemed kinda forced, as if to hammer it home that she’s not a superhero. Just came off as completely unnecessary. And while it is nice to see her in a costume that kinda harkens back to her old days, I gotta admit, I’m gonna miss her New 52 costume. And no, it’s not because it covered her up more. It’s just, for situations where she’s shown in a more positive light and oftentimes working with the heroes, it looked like a superhero costume. Again, kinda feels like they’re trying to make it clear she’s NOT a superhero. And granted, she’s more of a neutral, all things considered, and it could just be me wanting to see her eventually transition into being a superhero, but it’s just a little distracting to me.
Speaking of distracting, that brings me to an issue some people are having with this book: The artwork, specifically whether or not Clay Mann is showing Ivy off a bit too much and if Ivy is designed far too much to favour the male gaze. And I’m just gonna say this right now, to make my opinion as clear as I can: I’ve seen WAY worse. I mean, do you people even REMEMBER how the New 52 started? If you don’t, allow me to jog your memory. It had…
…Please, dear God, don’t let Rebirth be a repeat of some of the crap we’ve gotten in the New 52. Just a little less female objectification and a lot less dark and dire stories…Oh yeah, I’m supposed to be giving my thoughts on that, aren’t I? Yeah, should probably do that pretty soon.
But yeah, overall, still enjoying this book, and can’t wait to see where it goes from here. Leave your own thoughts below, and be sure to check back in next month when I review issue 3…Hopefully, a little more on time than this one. lol Ja né!
Sorry this is coming out a day late, but it was kind of a busy night. Comics to read, fundraisers to go to, yada yada yada. Regardless, I wanna give my thoughts on Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death #1. Given that I’ve been a member of the Poison Ivy League for quite some time now, I figured I’d go ahead and let everyone know if it met my expectations.
So, this book is awesome. lol I’m sorry, it just is. It does a great job of returning Pam to her…well, for a lack of a better term, ‘roots’, and letting her be Super-Awesome, Super-Sexy, Brilliant Science Woman. And while she doesn’t explicitly kill anyone, she does give a fair amount of assholes trying to have their way a good beating, so there’s plenty of her being a badass, too. She even rides a sweet-ass motorcycle (or crotch rocket, as a friend of mine on Twitter called it), although…maybe it’s just because I watched Batman TAS as a kid, but I always figured her vehicle of choice would be pink. 😛 And yes, for drooling fanboys (and drooling fangirls, let’s be honest, you exist, lol), there is a scene of her naked, although it is…erm, semi-tastefully done. Most of the book, though, focuses on her being a scientist and getting a second chance at working in a legitimate lab without being judged for her criminal behaviour, and while she insists that she’s better off alone, you can tell it’s having a positive influence on her. She is completely in her element here, and it’s a joy to watch.
If I had one minor issue that kinda rubbed me the wrong way, though, and I fully admit that I could be reading too much into this, but it felt like, much in the same way the Harley Quinn book disregards Ivy’s growth as a character, this book seems to neglect Harley’s growth and that she’s been living a life away from Joker and outside his influence for some time now. I get that Harley’s growth occurs in a VERY problematic book, especially for Ivy fans, and for those of us who found the implications at the end of the Harley/PG team-up offensive as all hell, and that continuity between books at DC right now is loose as all hell. However, that just makes me think of a bigger problem. Really, it just annoys me that, while I’m glad the writers are allowed to do whatever stories they want now, the fact that there’s little to no continuity from one book to another just means that the editors have one less job to do that they’re being paid to do and instead have more time to pretend to be writers. Honestly, I just wish we had a solid continuity where everyone was written and treated fairly, and that we didn’t need to have apparently separate universes in order to have a well-written Poison Ivy.
Regardless, though, this book is frigging awesome. Granted, from a story perspective, it’s all pretty much set-up for the rest of the mini-series, but it’s all well-done, with the exception of a character death that I probably would’ve seen coming even without being spoiled by the solicitations. But, it’s still great, I can’t wait to see where Amy Chu goes from here with the book, and I hope that, when it’s over, we get the ongoing solo series we’ve been wanting for years now…although, with said series, might be a good idea to simply call it Poison Ivy. Otherwise, it’s kind of a mouthful. lol
Anyway, those are my thoughts on the book. Lemme know what you think of it, and we’ll see how things go from here on out. Ja né!