#PoisonIvyLeague Poison Ivy #6 Review + Overall Thoughts On Cycle Of Life And Death (WARNING – SPOILERS)
…Well, here we are, the last issue of Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death, and what’s going to be one of, if not THE last time, I look at something from the New 52. How does it fare? Well…it’s okay, but it involves yet ANOTHER character coming in to deal with the situation, and it has a cliffhanger ending that I’m worried will never get followed up on. I mean, I get why Amy Chu felt it had to end this way, and I’ll get to that in a bit, but suffice to say, it’s a little aggravating, though it’s at least a better ending than I thought we were gonna get for a while. Anyway, before I go into what I liked and disliked about this issue and the series as a whole, I need to do a quick look at the plot for this issue, so yes, SPOILERS AHEAD.
So, long story short, it turns out Grimley was the one behind the murders and the theft of Pamela’s research, meaning Victor from issue 4 was actually working for him. While his body WAS found dead at the end of issue 2, it turns out he sort of left it behind like a cocoon. It’s also hinted that he may have been behind keeping the cops off Ivy, as well as outright stated that he put a halt to the police investigation of the lab, since her staying in the game was required for his survival. Doesn’t completely excuse the two incompetent cops, but whatever. Point is, Grimley needed Pam’s research because he found it could help battle his cancer. Unfortunately, not only has it transformed him into a monster called the Grim, but his cancer came back anyway. He needs the Sporelings’ cells to stay alive, and doesn’t care if it kills them. Luckily for Ivy, Darshan came and freed the kids from Ivy’s cage so they could help her, but that isn’t quite enough to seal the deal, so naturally, what else should happen but Swamp Thing showing up to save the day. He punches a hole through Grim, who falls on Darshan, but Darshan lives because main character shields, Grim gets back up, grabs Rose, they fight again, and then Thorn HACKS GRIM APART WITH A MACHETE and drops his pieces in the river where they dissolve for some reason. DAMN, GIRL. O_O Anyway, Darshan makes a couple of WWE gags toward Swamp Thing that made me giggle, he takes the girls back in, and Alec talks to Ivy about how she might not have thought bringing the Sporelings into the world all the way through, but that they’re her responsibility. She needs to look after them, but she can’t keep hiding them forever, and that while people like them might be unique, they aren’t alone. As such, Pam finally decides to call Harley to try to make amends, but as she goes back into the house, the Sporelings are gone. Turns out that Darshan, knowing they’d try it with or without his help, got them to the Gotham Bus Terminal without anyone spotting them and I guess provided them fare to get out of Gotham. Apparently, they realized that the cops would come looking for them after what happened in the club and have decided it’s best to take off, but it’s hinted that they also have plans to “change the world”.
So, let’s talk about what I liked about this issue specifically first. While the art team is very clearly there to fill in the work for Mann, as he was leaving to start early work on Trinity, they nonetheless pass in a decent job…Well, okay, let’s just put it this way: For a last-minute change, the art could’ve been a LOT worse. We’ve all seen how those can usually end up in the past. While you all know my issues with killing, especially in the case where Grim could be brought back as a recurring member of Ivy’s rogues gallery, I get that this is a mini-series without a guaranteed continuation later, and that it wouldn’t be the hardest thing in the world to bring him back if it does. And while I made a joke about how Darshan survived where he probably shouldn’t have been able to, I AM glad he lived, and comprehend that he understood that the girls were gonna leave Gotham with or without his help and thus did what he thought was right. Even if the ending hints that he wasn’t necessarily, it’s easy to see where he thought he was. I might’ve done the same, honestly. And I’m glad that Ivy finally decided to call Harley in the end. While I’m not always a fan of how the two are written together nowadays, I AM still a fan of their pairing, and it’s good to see Pam acknowledge that she has people in her life that she loves.
And now for what I didn’t like. First off, while it’s always awesome to see Poison Ivy and Swamp Thing kicking ass, Alec showing up kinda hijacked the plot just a little bit, especially with how easily he brought down Grim at first. That said, I was kinda hoping that, should Swamp Thing make a cameo, it would tie into the fact that Ivy was tasked with regrowing his body after what happened in Justice League United, and that maybe regrowing him led to a breakthrough that showed Ivy how she could create the Sporelings in the first place, but no such luck. Speaking of, THAT ENDING. Look, I get that Amy Chu is trying to leave us with an ending where it’s suggested that this isn’t the end, or maybe to encourage the higher-ups at DC to either let her or someone else do something more with this story, but since we don’t know for sure that there WILL be a continuation, it instead feels like…the end of Sonic SatAM, I guess is a good example. Speaking of, I think it’s hinted that the girls might be in the midst of a heel turn with that ominous final line, but again, I can’t be sure, because for all I know, we’re never gonna see them again. Also, I get what they’re thinking with leaving, but I don’t think THEY thought it all the way through. So, basically, they’re leaving because they’re worried the cops will come after them and that it’s safer for everyone if they just weren’t around. Okay… … …except now, the only suspect left is Poison Ivy, and there’s no one left to cover her trail for her. Hell, take it a step further from that, and assume they eventually link Darshan to her. Between the lab and everything else, they’ll think she was behind everything and that he was an accomplice, which could end with him going to frigging Blackgate. Alternatively, you could’ve turned yourselves in and spared those you care about by claiming full responsibility. Granted, still not a great solution, and might’ve ended with Ivy being chased by the police anyway, but still comes off as a bit more selfless and thought-out than running away.
So, overall, what are my thoughts on the Poison Ivy mini-series? Well, it’s kind of a mixed bag for me. When it does well, it does really well, but when it does poorly, it’s really aggravating to me. Granted, that could just be because of how I personally view Ivy, and how much I want her to have a good solo title, but it’s also possible that the book had problems. Members of the art team having to tag out because of work elsewhere, story elements having to be rushed and blended in together because of the nature of the book being a six-issue mini-series, kinda conflicting messages as to whether or not Pam thinks it’s okay to kill, and characters coming in to hog the spotlight. On the other hand, though, when Ivy is in the zone, it’s awesome. She’s a brilliant-minded woman, but one who is capable of making mistakes and not thinking things all the way through, which just goes to prove that she IS human. Again, Darshan was a delight, and if this DOES get an on-going later, I’d love to see him back. I’m also glad he’s not involved simply to be a love interest. The mystery, while not exactly having the best structure in terms of giving the reader a chance to piece it together themselves along the way, at least makes sense by the end, and provides Ivy with someone she could have a longtime feud with, should the writers choose to do so. So, like I said, it’s a mixed bag, but one that I think provides the potential for a far better ongoing solo title. That said, I WOULD have to insist that the book simply be called Poison Ivy. I get the need for Cycle of Life and Death here, but for the ongoing, just Poison Ivy is fine. Overall, I definitely don’t regret buying this book, and I would encourage all of you who haven’t yet and want DC to make a Poison Ivy ongoing solo-title to do so. Hell, you might even enjoy it more than me, since I maybe have a tendency to over-think certain stuff. 😛
Anyway, lemme know what you all thought of this book, and let’s hope that the sales and overall interest are good enough in the end that DC makes an ongoing Poison Ivy Rebirth title. Either way, though, for those that read this and have been members of the Poison Ivy League, remember that we made this happen. So, regardless of what’s done with this from here on out, this was nonetheless a victory where some thought it couldn’t be attained, so pat yourselves on the back for that. Ja né!
…Well, I SAID I’d like to go awhile without talking about the New 52, but as a longtime member of the Poison Ivy League, I feel obligated to share this link and then review the comic next week. So, here are the preview pages for Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death #6.
- Poison Ivy and her Sporelings battle for survival in the epic final chapter of “Cycle of Life and Death”! The monster Grim makes his final move, the murderer is revealed, and Pamela Isley’s life will be forever changed! Plus, someone, or someTHING, joins the fray!
Well, the New 52 is just about at its end, with DC Rebirth coming up next week and the last of the New 52 books ending over the course of the next few months. And while the New 52 has become something of a punchline for many fans, let’s not forget the good times that came with it. Let’s be honest with ourselves and admit that there WERE good books, as well as the bad. So, with that in mind, I’ve decided that, before I seriously rag on the New 52 one last time, I should really take a look at some of my favourite comics from this era. Now, keep in mind, these are JUST the ones that I read. I’m well aware of the fact that there were other good comics that came out during the past five years under the DC banner that won’t be on this list. As such, if your favourites aren’t on the list, by all means, feel free to place your own in the comments. Also, keep in mind that there are books that, while good, just weren’t the overall greats of this list. So, books like Justice League, while having arcs I liked, also had a bunch of arcs I DIDN’T like, so they just missed the cut…though I DO have a bonus round for them. lol And, of course, books that are not a part of the main line, like Sensation Comics feat. Wonder Woman don’t count. Why we couldn’t have more books like it and Legends of Wonder Woman in the main line, I dunno, but for now, let’s start with one that’s probably kinda obvious to anyone who’s read my blog for a while…
Yeah, not shocking anyone with this pick, I’m sure. Most definitely my favourite of the books starring the New 52 Superman, and it’s one of the reasons I’m actually sad to learn that he’s dying. Yes, he is arguably the most inherently flawed of the mainstream Supermen, but when you have a good writer with a good story writing him, those flaws are used in good ways. We see how this Superman is still an inspirational figure in spite of these flaws by never giving up and continuously trying to do the best he can for the world. So yeah, while I’m obviously overjoyed to see the pre-Flashpoint Superman return to active duty, along with his wife and son, there will always be a little part of me that gets nostalgic for the Superman who didn’t always get it right, but nonetheless kept trying his best, for truth and justice.
I actually feel bad because I initially was unwilling to give this book a try. Why? Because they’d seemingly undone Babs’ past as Oracle as a means to make her Batgirl again, thus taking the position away from Stephanie Brown, who was nowhere to be seen for a long time. But while all that is true, I can’t deny that this book has had some great moments. Granted, I HATED the Batgirl Wanted arc, and Black Canary’s characterization in the beginning of the Stewart/Fletcher era rubbed me the wrong way, but the rest of it has been highly enjoyable. Some of my favourite moments are probably Alysia’s wedding, the end of the Simone era when Babs called in damned near EVERY superheroine on Earth, ALL of her annuals, the tie-in to Future’s End, that time she and Strix took on vampires, it’s just been a hell of a ride, and I hope that the next volume is just as fun.
For those that never read this book, I’ll keep the recap brief: Shortly after the collapse of the government sanctioned JLA, which was secretly meant as a fail-safe against the Justice League, three of its members, Stargirl, Martian Manhunter, and Green Arrow, found themselves teaming with Supergirl, Adam and Alanna Strange, Animal Man, and newcomer Equinox, to form a new Justice League: the Justice League United, set up in Canada, and meant to protect the world from extraterrestrial and paranormal threats. Of course, right off the bat, I was excited, since…well, do you know how long I waited for my country to get their own Justice League? Was awesome. But beyond that, getting to see some of the character interactions without the dread present in the JLA book that came before it was great too (Green Arrow and Animal Man playing off each other made for some decent comedy), and there was a lot of more traditional superheroing. In the later stages of the book’s existence, the team began rotating members in and out in order to deal with different situations, regardless of which side of the law they were on. Anyone from Batgirl to Poison Ivy, Swamp Thing to Vandal Savage, and so on could be brought in depending on what the situation called for. Unfortunately, this didn’t last long before the book’s cancellation, but the JLU has since appeared during the Truth story-arc in the Superman books, giving me hope that they’ll one day return to action.
I should probably note that, when I say Convergence is a favourite of mine, I’m not talking about the main series. This is primarily because…well, I didn’t read it, and from what I’ve read, there’s not really much of anything that good, other than the restoration of the Multiverse. Oh, there’s some stuff involving the New 52 version of Earth 2, but unfortunately, that’s been a SERIOUSLY mixed bag. You wanna know more about that, go check out the blog Helena Wayne Huntress for more details. But no, what I’m referring to as one of my favourites of the New 52 is all the tie-in stuff. Granted, that could be seen as cheating for one simple reason: IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW 52. The Convergence tie-ins are about giving resolution to stories that happened before the New 52, letting the heroes of ages past get one last hurrah, and even setting up for maybe a few of them to return later on. And they’re all awesome! Nightwing and Oracle get married and kick ass (not necessarily in that order, lol), Lian is brought back to life, Stephanie Brown suits up as Batgirl again, Lois and Clark have a child, the JSA return, it’s all amazing! Hell, even Scott freaking Lobdell turns in a good Blue Beetle book! I didn’t even think it was possible for him to put out anything of quality, but I guess mathematically speaking, it had to happen EVENTUALLY.
…Yyyeeeaaaahh, suppose this isn’t much of a surprise to anyone. lol While I wasn’t a fan of the story where Jim Gordon was Batman, and I found Joker to be WAY over the top in terms of unstoppable villainy is concerned, it’s really hard to not consider this book one the best of the past five years. Snyder and Capullo have simply been on fire for this era, and it’s sad to know that, at least for a while, that team of theirs is over. Although as hard as it is for me and other readers, I gotta imagine it’s even harder for them. But yeah, you guys should all know all of my favourite moments from this book, and if you don’t, I made a list of them just before the Superheavy story-arc. Point is, if you’re a Batman fan and you’ve been avoiding this book for the New 52 branding, don’t. It’s at least worth your time to check out.
So those are my favourite books of the New 52 in terms of overall quality. And now, the bonus round for all the arcs of books that I liked.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Huntress and Power Girl fighting a giant Irradiated Man in a Japanese harbour! All it needed was for Godzilla and Dragonzord to show up to make it the most beautiful thing I’d ever seen! XD
…Not to self: Review Darkseid War once the entire storyline is finished. It is easily my favourite story of the New 52 Justice League. Also, I thought Origin worked as an introduction to this new timeline, and the Amazo Virus was pretty awesome, too, and marked the point in which Geoff Johns finally found his groove with writing Wonder Woman’s character.
Cross World was great, and presented one of my all-time favourite images of Wonder Woman, and the stuff with Mongol and Toymaster is admittedly dumb fun that resolved in an awesome team-up involving Supergirl, Batgirl, Steel, Red Hood, and Krypto.
Y’know, DC, right after the engagement, I was totally gonna stick with this book. Then you called it off, the creative team left as a result, and then you did the stupid vampire thing. Just saying, you had a great thing gift-wrapped for you. I sincerely hope, though, that since Rebirth is apparently nixing the whole heroes-can’t-be-married thing, with the old Superman who is married to Lois Lane being back and Aquaman and Mera being engaged, that Batwoman finally is allowed to get married in Detective Comics.
Ultimately proved to be hit and miss, but I liked it for the most part. Could’ve done without Casey being damned near torn apart, but watching her make her badass comeback with a cybernetic arm-cannon was awesome. I mean, yeah, it’s another case of extreme violence against women in a comic, but it’s hard not to watch her in the hospital bed right after losing her arm and eye and not grin ear-to-ear when she’s still being like “Aw, fuck it, just put a giant arm-cannon on me, and I’ll fuck these guys up! And Calvin, you better make sure you haven’t completely screwed things up by the time I show up, or your ass is grass!” XD
I unfortunately can’t really justify putting Nightwing on the top 5, but that’s less to do with the quality of the stories told in it and more to do with the constantly changing status quo that was really only a thing strictly because of stuff happening in the other Bat Family books before ending due to events in Forever Evil. Oh, and as a side-note, SO glad to see that Nightwing is in blue again, but not sure where this is going with him as a member of the Court (or Parliament, I guess) of Owls.
I can’t say enough how much I adored the team-up with Power Girl. Was just great.
I feel like I MIGHT’VE put this on the list if I’d read through the entire thing and it didn’t delve into the cheesecake quite as much as it did, soooo…Eh, call it sixth, I guess. lol
Again, DC, you had me right up until Evil Superman working for Darkseid, and Thomas Wayne as Batman. Then you completely lost me. And THEN you pissed me off with World’s End and the first arc of Earth 2: Society. Seriously, like I said before, go read Helena Wayne Huntress’ blog for more details, but suffice to say, it’s been a MESS, one that I hope gets cleaned up soon. I DO recommend the Tower of Fate arc, though.
Problematic for me personally at times, but still enjoying it, and glad it’s here. 🙂
And that’s all my favourite stuff of the New 52. Like I said before, if you’ve got a book that you really liked from this era that wasn’t on here, by all means, leave your own list in the comments, and be sure to check back in the future when I go over the worst of this era. Ja né!
Well, it’s once again time to look at the adventures of Doctor Pamela Isley and her adorable plant ba-…Uh, I guess they’re teenagers now. Yeah, this is Poison Ivy #5.
So, right off the bat, let’s get this out of the way: I wasn’t exactly blown away by this issue. It didn’t piss me off like, say, issue 3 did, but it wasn’t really anything outstanding. We see the babies have grown into teenagers since their genetics are making them age faster than humans, and naturally, as all mutant teens are wont to do, they decide to sneak out one night so they can see the world outside their home. Nothing really wrong with that plot for this issue, just that I’ve seen it done before, and nothing about this scenario really grabbed me as anything different…well, save for one point: Ivy. See, the stuff with the teenagers is all stuff I’ve seen before in other stories. However, through thought balloons and body language, it’s pretty clear to me that Ivy is now realizing that she didn’t think this plan all the way through. While we’ve seen her in a protective and sort-of maternal scenario before, this is her quite literally being a mother, something that is completely new to her. And, as any first-time parent does, she makes mistakes and acknowledges that maybe she didn’t think everything through. To be fair, though, she probably wasn’t planning to keep three teenagers in that one loft and might’ve had long-term plans to move them to someplace at least a little bigger while teaching them over a longer course of time how important it was not to draw attention to themselves. So yeah, everything’s accelerated faster than she had plans for, and she hasn’t had the time to get everything squared away right…and it was right after realizing this that I came to the conclusion that that’s not just a problem for Ivy, but for this story in general.
This story is a 6-issue miniseries that is tackling multiple plot threads all at once: The murder mystery, the kids’ development, Ivy’s issues with becoming a mother, as well as looking at her own sense of morality and stability, the incorporation of Darshan and the other two Gotham City Sirens as side-characters, and so on. Y’know, I’d heard people suggest that Swamp Thing or Batman were going to cameo in this book, and honestly, while it’d be awesome to see either one (I actually thought for sure that’s where we were heading with this issue, in that Batman would have a little chat with Ivy about what’s going on), I feel like it’d bog the story down even more. Even if this was only a 12-issue miniseries, it could STILL manage to balance out and take more time with each of these plots one by one. Instead, because this all has to be resolved in 6 issues, it feels incredibly rushed and crammed in. And you can’t even say “Well, maybe some of these plot threads should’ve been dropped”, since other than maybe not including Selina and Harley, or perhaps dropping Darshan, all of the other plots tie together in a way that, when you take one away, the rest feels a bit hollow. And in regards to the other characters, I’d HATE to drop any of them. The problem is not the story or how many plots are going on at once, but the lack of time given for each one. As such, when Ivy has killed three people so far in this book and then tells the kids “No casualties”, you’re left wondering when she circled back around to the conclusion that killing is bad.
That said, I wanna make it clear that I DO understand why it’s only 6 issues. To be completely blunt, name one person at DC who had any say in what goes on and what makes it to print who wanted to put out a Poison Ivy book before the demand for it started. Now, while I can’t say that for a fact, and of course someone could pipe up and say they wanted to do so NOW, my guess is that the answer to this question is zero. And I’m not even saying that as any kind of negative comment toward DC. I’m just saying, no one in charge had it in their minds to do it. People who work for them probably did, but when it came to anyone who could actually give the green light for that? Notta. Then the Poison Ivy League started making a bit more noise, and when people like MTV started giving us attention, that’s when they said “Okay, we’ll do a Poison Ivy book”. However, while they were willing to do so, we’ve seen cases in the past (particularly during the New 52) where characters outside of the norm that people would expect to see have their own books get their own books but then be cancelled rather quickly due to low sales. So, I don’t think it’s outside the realm of possibility, nor as anything unreasonable, for them to decide to do a miniseries, and after that, if demand is still high, and the mini sold well, THEN they’ll do a monthly. So, for those wondering why we haven’t seen solicits for a Poison Ivy book as part of DC Rebirth, the reason is likely because they’re waiting for all six issues (and probably the trade, since there are people who simply cannot or will not get the individual issues) to be released and sold and then look at how they did before announcing anything, so don’t be surprised if we don’t get a full monthly until sometime next year.
So, that’s the situation. I get why it’s a 6-issue mini, and why we couldn’t get a full series right away, and how there was really no way to do this story under these conditions that wouldn’t result in this or any other sort of problem with the book. And I’m not pointing fingers at anybody for any issues with the book, either. Everybody, from Amy Chu, to the Manns, to everybody else that has had a hand with the book, I am perfectly willing to give the benefit of the doubt to and suggest they’re all at least TRYING to make this work. And it IS still an enjoyable story, despite these flaws, and I’m looking forward to the climax, albeit with a bit of fear as to how they decide to wrap this up. I’m just saying that it’s unfortunate that the current situation is preventing it from being even better. But, as the old saying goes, beggars can’t be choosers, and there WAS a lot of begging for this book.
Anyway, those are my thoughts on this issue. Got a different opinion? Feel free to leave it in the comments below, and let’s hope the final issue next month proves to be a satisfying conclusion…especially since it’s the last individual comic I’ll be buying regularly, since I’m switching over to the trades to save money. Ja né!
Yeesh, and I thought I had it rough with my niece turning 12 today. o.O Anyway, here are the preview pages for Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death #5.
- Trouble is brewing as Poison Ivy’s sporelings discover their powers and spread their wings, causing mayhem across Gotham City! Plus, a murderer-mastermind is revealed in this penultimate chapter of Life and Death!
Well, I’m sure, after last time I reviewed Poison Ivy, that everyone was wondering what I’d think of this issue. Would I like it, would I hate it, would it further the problems of the last one or recover from them? Well, let’s not waste any time and dive into Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death #4 to find out.
So, right off the top, I do need to make mention of the fact that, yes, Poison Ivy apparently kills someone. However, this issue, it didn’t bother me NEARLY as much. In fact, I actually thought it worked perfectly within her personality. The details are kinda spoiler heavy, though, so I’m gonna write this in white within brackets. If you don’t wanna know what happened, don’t read it, but if you do, highlight the whole thing to find out. [Okay, so long story short, Pam finds out that Victor in the lab was the one who stole her notes, was the murderer all along, and used Pam’s research to try and create his own human/plant hybrids. The thing is, there was only ONE successful test subject, who was able to call out through the Green to Ivy for help. All of the others, who numbered in the dozens, maybe HUNDREDS, of fetuses? Not so lucky. Between that and the fact that Victor was going to threaten her and her children, Pam lost it, destroyed the lab, and damned near took herself, Catwoman, Darshan, and the girl with it in a rage, though it’s implied she killed Victor as the lab was brought down around him.] Suffice to say, after that? I don’t blame Pam for killing him. It’s something I wouldn’t expect Batman or Superman to do, but that’s strictly because they’re the people that don’t cross that line except in the most extreme of circumstances, because they’re the ones who HAVE to maintain that line between justice and vengeance, to show we don’t have to go down that road. To see Pam cross the line because someone did something so horrific? Not that big a big deal to me. Hell, I might’ve killed that guy, and I’m someone who values all life!
Other than that, the issue is relatively solid. I will say that, while I feel like Catwoman could’ve been used a bit better, seeing her and Darshan play off each other and show one another up back and forth was kinda fun. One minor nitpick: Because Clay Mann is doing Trinity for DC Rebirth, he had to take off early, and while those that replaced him are all good (or even great in the case of Ethan Van Sciver), they didn’t necessarily gel together that great at points in this issue. I guess the only other problem is that the murder mystery is over, but we’ve still got two issues left, so other than an insane amount of just throwing everything at us, I’m not sure where we go from here. I’m kinda hoping for/expecting a Gotham City Sirens reunion by the end, and the giant plant monster that’s been teased, but how it all ties together? I don’t know. But in terms of this issue on its own and judged by its own merits? Can’t complain too much.
Anyway, that’s all I had to say about this one. Big improvement in my eyes over last issue. Let’s hope it keeps up for the last two issues. Until then, lemme know what you think in the comments, and I’ll see you back here for issue 5. Ja né!
At this point, I’m just hoping they can go one issue without killing anyone. Also, gotta admit, this IS kinda making me wish we could get a new Sirens book. Anyway, here are the preview pages for Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death #4!
- Catwoman and Poison Ivy—reunited! As the body count rises at the Gotham Botanical Gardens labs, Ivy needs Selina’s help to solve the puzzle…a mystery that seems to involve Ivy’s blossoming children!
Happy St. Patrick’s Day, everybody! And in the spirit of green, we got a Poison Ivy comic review, and…well… … … …Pinkie Pie, you wanna field this one?
Thank you. Look, I know I’m gonna get a lot of people angry at me, but overall…I have to say that this comic left me feeling not so great. That’s not to say there aren’t good things still present with this comic, but…well, let’s just get into it. Here are my thoughts on Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death #3. And please keep in mind, these are just MY thoughts, so it could very well be that the problem is simply me, I don’t argue that at all.
So, lemme just start off by saying that I personally find the babies kinda adorable. I know some people disagree, but I think they’re cute. I don’t know why, I just do. I’m kinda worried we’re gonna see them eventually die and/or turn heel, though. It feels like that’d be the most likely scenario in the end, and I’d much rather they not go down that avenue. However, I will say exactly why I feel that to be the most likely ending: Because that would otherwise be a great storyline to do for the long-term and see how it affects and changes Pam, and I’m pretty sure that, as of right now, they have no plans to do stories starring Ivy in the immediate future after the end of this mini-series.
But now we gotta talk about something I know is gonna be a hot button subject: Poison Ivy seduces and kills a man from work that was hitting on her a lot, and then feeds him to her plant monsters. And as soon as I was done reading that scene, I thought to myself “I don’t know that I wanna review this comic, because I’m pretty sure I’m gonna piss somebody off, namely a good percentage of the Poison Ivy League”. And this is a group I’ve been supporting for a long time now, advertised on my blog, spotlighted however I could, and now I’m scared that, once people read this, I may need to kiss my membership goodbye. But…at the same time, this is the life I’ve chosen for myself: Writing, blogging, giving my thoughts. And if I held back on how I really felt, you wouldn’t be able to respect me. So, I have to be honest.
I did NOT like watching Poison Ivy kill that guy. Not just that she killed him, but that she then fed him to her plant monsters. I mean, it was when Ivy fed a guy to a plant that I had to call it quits on the Harley Quinn book, and I can’t say that it’s any better here just because I like one book and its creative team better than the other. I get that she is not a superhero. At times, I wish she was, but she’s not. Regardless, this is supposed to be behaviour she’s beyond. At one point in this comic, she talks about how she’d LIKE to kill two detectives (who were freaking morons, by the way), but that she’s turning over a new leaf (pun likely intended). And then 7 pages later (ads not included, and yes, I counted), she kills this guy. There’s having seasonal affective disorder, and then there’s being just plain psychotic and murderous. And yes, this is now at least two people she’s killed, the dog abuser included. And like I said before, comeuppance is one thing, and both people deserved as much. However, this is murder of two people who, while both were utter assholes and just overall terrible people, and one was technically a criminal as animal abuse is illegal, the other one was just a jerk. Why do I make a point of that specifically? Because I can see her breaking her word and killing if she really and truly felt she HAD to, or if the person was a dangerous criminal and she knows the justice system would screw the pooch on dealing with them, because she’s not a hero. But this, as I said last issue, was unnecessary, and comes off as being done either to hammer in the point that she’s not a superhero, or to come off as some kind of power fantasy for those that wish they could do something about people like this. And keep in mind, I said PEOPLE, not MEN. The fact that they’re men and she’s a woman? Has absolutely nothing to do with this. If either side had their genders reversed, or both, wouldn’t change a damned thing. So if you disagree with my opinions, that’s fine, I fully expect people to. But don’t ANYONE come at me saying that I don’t like this because of my gender or the genders of the characters involved.
So, does this mean I officially hate this series and am not buying anymore?…No. I thought this one issue was problematic at best, I have concerns for the series overall, but things can still turn around, and I wanna have faith that it will. And frankly, if I abandoned the book at the first sign of trouble, after I and so many others yelled from the rooftops for DC to make this happen, then they’d never give us anything we demand ever again. Plus, I’m interested to see where this goes with the ending, with Catwoman showing up and knowing the two will team up next issue, as well as Darshan finding out about all of this. And hey, I’m still legit curious to know the answer to the mystery and who is responsible for what’s going on. So I’m gonna stick with it. Just letting you know, though, when issue 6 comes out, I WILL be giving my thoughts on the series overall, and if I feel generally negatively about it in the end, I’ll tell you and I’ll say exactly why that is. I just hope for the sake of myself and everyone that wanted this book and all but begged for it that I feel generally positive about the book.
Anyway, those are my thoughts in general. Again, agree, disagree, go ahead. Just remember this, though: I am not someone that went into this book expecting and wanting to hate it. I wanted this as much as anybody, and I remain optimistic about the series for now. Ja né!
Aww, they’re so adorable! ❤ …50 bucks says they turn evil and/or die by the end. lol Here’s the preview for Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death #3.
- As the murder investigation at the lab deepens, a new surprise awaits Poison Ivy in the form of the growing hatched sporelings! As these new lifeforms test the limits of their power, will they soon outgrow the need for their creator?
…So yeah, this is kinda late. lol My fault, I hadn’t been uptown for a bit, so I wasn’t able to grab my copy. Regardless, I have it now, so let’s go over my thoughts regarding Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death #2.
So, as anyone who read last issue knows, we’ve got a murder mystery. And, as is typically a good move in murder mysteries, a lot of this issue sets up the most likely candidate for who the murderer is…and then ends with them being the newest victim. So yeah, not gonna lie, I’m not 100% sure I know who the killer is, which is good, because I don’t wanna be a mere two issues and know how it’s gonna end. With that said, I REALLY hope the character of Darshan is innocent as he seems to be, because I find myself really sympathizing with his situation. I’m also interested to see where they go with what Ivy’s been working on, although I hope for her sake that it doesn’t end up going where I think it is. And, of course, as always, Ivy is a delight to read. There’s just something about how unapologetically confident she is in herself and what she believes in…Well, minus one point.
As it pertains to the cons of this issue, I REALLY didn’t need to see her killing the dog abuser. He needed some kind of comeuppance, no doubt, but Ivy killing him seemed kinda forced, as if to hammer it home that she’s not a superhero. Just came off as completely unnecessary. And while it is nice to see her in a costume that kinda harkens back to her old days, I gotta admit, I’m gonna miss her New 52 costume. And no, it’s not because it covered her up more. It’s just, for situations where she’s shown in a more positive light and oftentimes working with the heroes, it looked like a superhero costume. Again, kinda feels like they’re trying to make it clear she’s NOT a superhero. And granted, she’s more of a neutral, all things considered, and it could just be me wanting to see her eventually transition into being a superhero, but it’s just a little distracting to me.
Speaking of distracting, that brings me to an issue some people are having with this book: The artwork, specifically whether or not Clay Mann is showing Ivy off a bit too much and if Ivy is designed far too much to favour the male gaze. And I’m just gonna say this right now, to make my opinion as clear as I can: I’ve seen WAY worse. I mean, do you people even REMEMBER how the New 52 started? If you don’t, allow me to jog your memory. It had…
…Please, dear God, don’t let Rebirth be a repeat of some of the crap we’ve gotten in the New 52. Just a little less female objectification and a lot less dark and dire stories…Oh yeah, I’m supposed to be giving my thoughts on that, aren’t I? Yeah, should probably do that pretty soon.
But yeah, overall, still enjoying this book, and can’t wait to see where it goes from here. Leave your own thoughts below, and be sure to check back in next month when I review issue 3…Hopefully, a little more on time than this one. lol Ja né!